Just got this yesterday June 21,2008. Always wanted a lower Backtattoo but it took me a long time to really find a motive that suits me and my personality and that i like and not every other women has. So this is it, i Love it. Took about 2 hours and yes it hurt like fucking hell on the spine. What do you guys think? O BTW Yes the roses are crooked cuz i didnt want them straight, just didnt like the idea of the motive looking like an upside down cross!